The United States is now a Socialist Society and our Freedoms are disappearing as a result.

== '''The United States is now a Socialist Society and our Freedoms are disappearing as a result. - 10/29/2007 (https://www.debate.org/debates/The-United-States-is-now-a-Socialist-Society-and-our-Freedoms-are-disappearing-as-a-result/1/)''' ==

Round 1
Warcry: "Socialism is evil. Our government has become Socialist. Social Security, welfare, medicare and medicade, prescription drug benefits, department of education and many other wasteful "programs" are killing our country. I'm against all of the above in their current form. Democrats get elected by pandering to the poorest and most downtrodden of our society and promising more and more programs. We need to end these programs as soon as possible."

wryan: "Going down your points one by one.

First of all, Socialism is not evil. It's aim is equality and equal rights, and it has nothing if not the best intentions. Second of all, our government is not Socialist. Our welfare, social security, etc. are no where on par with what they would be in a socialized country. The huge cost of prizitized health care alone should be enough to convince you of that. Until we have a national healthcare plan, a much better and more far reaching welfare system, and allow generic drugs we will not have reached what anyone could call a socialist state. Third, a department of education is in no way socialist. Public schools are universally accepted as a normal institution in every country in the world, not just socialist one's. Public schools are definitely not a sympton of socialism. A socialist school system would be when we get rid of private schools in favor of public ones. Fourthly, you nevr back up the statement that our freedoms are dissapearing as a result of socialism in any way. I am going to assume you forfeit this point as a result. The democrats getting elected thing has nothing to do with the debate so I won't even include it, all though I would point out that they are getting elected by THE WILL OF THE MAJORITY. Your argument seems to be that we should ignore all the democratic principals on which our country was founded and become a dictatorship. So in conclusion. My opponent claims that the US is totally socialist and that our freedoms are dissapearing as a result. The burden of proof is on him to conclusively prove this ENTIRE statement true. I have proven that we are not socialist, as we have very few truly socialist institutions. As to the second half of the resolution, my opponent never explains why our freedoms are being limited. As he never addresses this part of the resolution, he cannot fulfill the burden of proof and therefore cannot win this debate. As a final note I would like to point out that my opponent is in favor of abolishing the public schoo system and making there be no institutionalized education. I am sure you can see why this would be bad. He is also in favor of destroying welfare and social securtiy, which would throw many poor and elderly into poverty. His plan seems to support a complete dictatorship, where the wealth goes to those who are born into it, and are rch enough to get necessities such as schooling, healthcare, and medicine. There is no way this can be good."